Women in combat are not a ‘social experiment,’ says Canada’s top military commander

Pete Hegseth, Donald Trump’s nominee for U.S. defense secretary, has repeatedly questioned if men and women should serve in the same combat unit. Gen. Jennie Carignan, who commands Canada’s military, defended women’s combat roles at a security forum.

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The first woman to command Canada’s military called out a U.S. senator on Nov. 23 for questioning the role of women in combat.

General Jennie Carignan responded to comments made by Idaho Republican Senator Jim Risch, the ranking member of the United States Senate Foreign Relations Committee, who was asked on Nov. 22 whether President-elect Donald Trump’s nominee for defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, should retract comments that he believes men and women should not serve together in combat units.

“I think it’s delusional for anybody to not agree that women in combat creates certain unique situations that have to be dealt with. I think the jury’s still out on how to do that,” Mr. Risch said during a panel session at the Halifax International Security Forum on Nov. 22.

Ms. Carignan, Canada’s chief of defense staff and the first woman to command the armed forces of any Group of 20 or Group of Seven country, took issue with those remarks during a panel session on Nov. 23.

“If you’ll allow me, I would first like maybe to respond to Senator Risch’s statement yesterday about women in combat because I wouldn’t want anyone to leave this forum with this idea that women are a distraction to defense and national security,” Ms. Carignan said.

“After 39 years of career as a combat arms officer and risking my life in many operations across the world, I can’t believe that in 2024, we still have to justify the contribution of women to their defense and to their service, in their country. I wouldn’t want anyone to leave this forum with this idea that this is that it is some kind of social experiment.”

Ms. Carignan said women have been participating in combat for hundreds of years but have never been recognized for fighting for their countries. She noted the women military personnel in the room.

“All the women sitting here in uniform, stepping in, and deciding to get into harm’s way and fight for their country, need to be recognized for doing so,” she said. “So again, this is the distraction, not the women themselves.”

Ms. Carignan received a standing ovation at the forum, which attracts defense and security officials from Western democracies.

Mr. Hegseth has reignited a debate that many thought had been long settled: Should women be allowed to serve their country by fighting on the front lines?

The former Fox News commentator made it clear, in his own book and in interviews, that he believes men and women should not serve together in combat units. If Mr. Hegseth is confirmed by the Senate, he could try to end the Pentagon’s nearly decade-old practice of making all combat jobs open to women.

Mr. Hegseth’s remarks have generated a barrage of praise and condemnation.

Ms. Carignan was promoted to the rank of general during the change-of-command ceremony this past summer, after being chosen by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s government to become Canada’s first female defense chief.

Ms. Carignan is no stranger to firsts. She was also the first woman to command a combat unit in the Canadian military, and her career has included deployments to Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia, and Syria.

For the last three years, she has been the chief of professional conduct and culture, a job created as a result of the sexual misconduct scandal in 2021.

Her appointment this year comes as Canada continues to face criticism from NATO allies for not spending 2% of its gross domestic product on defense. The Canadian government recently said that it would reach its NATO commitment by 2032.

Mr. Risch said on Nov. 21 that Mr. Trump would laugh at Canada’s current military spending plans and said the country must do more.

This story was reported by The Associated Press.